Do not let your spouse engage in financial infidelity and ruin you! He had already been contacted by NBC News. Someone on a FB forum had the same thing and said that their out-of-pocket/co-pay was like a thousand dollars. What bank is giving a 20-something single woman making, what, $40k/year TOPS? What do you mean? I hope Chris is released someday, he shouldn't have to spend the rest of his life in prison. They filed for bankruptcy due to do much debt they had. Her mother wasnt meddling in her business. Shanann wanted one more child praying for a baby boy. Suffering. Everyone was a useful idiot, to her. Nothing out of the box. click ACCEPT. Maybe she wasnt very good at Munchhausening. Chris Watts, then 33, had grown distant from his family and was seeing a new woman. I dont trust every single thing he said & I still think he cares enough (for whatever reason) about his reputation & how people view him (close friends, family members like his mom & dad, and even Nichol K. and the public) to leave certain things out/fudge the truth about some of the incidents he described. How many times did this trashy couple declare bankruptcy? Just the fact that she texted a friend, mulling about where to move should they divorce, (but not NC for some reason) tells me she was used to getting her own way. Its clear the NC house layout was inspiration to the CO home that was customized. He described how he did it. He withdrew the girls from school before the cops got involved. The 500K was in 2015as of 2018, they were about 100K in debt (student loans, etc.) that they could have a credit rating for a house like that. But I do wish he had let them live, and just walked off with his truck driver girlfriend. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek, Discovery DocumentsEx husbandLeonard King. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. He had already been contacted by NBC News. American Murder: The Family Next Door focuses on the 2018 disappearance of Shanann Watts and her two young . The cops never made her google searches public, but i am guessing she did a LOT of searches on her milquetoast co-workers, looking for just the right pigeon to pluck. But Chris was so lackadaisical about the finances in the Feb 18 interview. From her sketchy past and grifting ways, to the possible Munchausen Syndrome or Factitious Disorder, to the MLM scheme she was knee-deep in, to her dozens of vapid Facebook livestreams and Instagram posts now eternally available for public consumption and dissection, to her manipulation of "friends" and family, it's evident she was at best a woman desperate to appear more successful than she was ever capable of being, and at worst, a straight up con woman. COPS: It was determined that SHANANN WATTS was previously married to LEONARD KING, an attorney in NC. She and the kids would still be alive and he wouldn't be spending the rest of his life in jail. He used the same blanket to kill 4-year-old Bella . The real drama would have begun when lawyers and judges began digging in Shan'ann's finances, and discovered she was lying. The apostrophe made no fucking sense. He even put her body next to their feet on the floor of the truck with her head & feet covered with *trash bags* and took an hour driving them to the site they would be murdered at. There were rumors that she was banging her boss, Hisham. I also want to see her car model pictures too. what happens to all their debt now? Fact: Court documents listed Shanann as a co-owner of Dirty South. Why are you so concerned about what these children look like? Thanks for mentioning that, whoever you are. LEONARD was unable to get details from her. Talk about flood irrigation! We never had to go to the ER together. She said on Facebook that she would return from Scottsdale on Sunday, August 12. I really didnt. Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche], TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE Visit the post for more. All his plans were thrown off track. Hello and thank you for being a DL contributor. our privacy/terms or if you just want to see the damn This was from an interview with one of Shanann's Thrive friends, that they all were friendly. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesn't mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. But Good Lord - Cassie and Josh MOVE IN? I can't believe this thread got GRAY-LINED! Dirty South is a custom car shop. They all look like a ringing endorsement of health, R15. R59: Why is there a photo of a black woman and child on the shelf? A prick from my town did this a few years ago too. Shananns behavior is not odd at all, in fact, its pretty much how people act when they no longer want to be with you. Daughter of Private and Private Every quality I listed was well-documented in her videos and texts which revealed her dealings with others, as well as her attitude and perspective. Please click here to get full access and no ads for $1.99 or less per month. Because how dare murdered, discarded toddlers not be beautiful. R141 Your boy was fucked with or without the nosy friend. Rims, tinted windows, etc. But Chris was already involved in an affair: He had become intimate with an unwitting co-worker who believed he was getting a divorce from his wife. I had trouble sleeping after reading it. Chris was a real bore, apparently. He deserves peace. A big fat scene to get away from the MIL, complete with an ultimatum. They were spending more money than what was coming in and trying to live a wealthy life they could not afford. They owed Toys R Us a shitload of money. It made her feel special. NK was a normal, healthy, financial-responsible woman who loved Colorado sightseeing, hiking, camping, probably skiing, exploring natural resources, and all things normal people do in Colorado. Her story is that of the majority of bisexual men living a lie. Was he going to explode them in a tank and then sue? Shanann's husband, Chris Watts, 33, can be heard singing in the background. Perhaps they were close at one time. Shanann Watts, 34, posted the creepy image to Facebook on August 9 She appeared to think her daughters, ages three and four, posed the doll Shanann and the two girls were all killed days. There was never an investigation in the case, therefore its impossible to know who killed Shanann or the little girls. Chris isnt going anywhere, so he should turn her in. I truly hope a movie is made of her in an honest light. When they have to explain themselves preemptively or repeatedly, watch out. R107, yup yup yup. It is known that she did not die until days later. to which CW sensibly says "there's no bringing them back. I also think those same things motivate him to not be completely truthful about his true motives, etc. And that anyone who wants to dissect the situation, including dissecting the victim, is also CRAZY and therefore thinks the perp should go free and the victim deserved to die. Why are some posters feel the need to say that the toddlers are "ugly". The MIL was a cunt to her, too, but I think its because MIL recognized a fellow manipulator. I've been following the story somewhat closely, too. What was she doing? From all that we know, that sounds exactly like CW, and shrinking-violet SW was being dragged along and acquiesced to whatever her man told her to do. Chris was broken LONG before he met Shanann. She stayed at home all day gaming while her wife worked full time at Kohls. But I do view him as a victim. The digital quality of the photo makes it look dark. I spoke with LEONARD KING ( ) by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. I have friends whose kids have asthma, and they do not have that sort of look. LEONARD had heard that SHANANN was really involved in Thrive. There was also a history of her old houses sale price. A live stream of the service will be provided on the Boles Funeral Homes & Crematory Facebook Page. Mrs. Watts is the smallest one. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? That wasnt a real work trip, it was a boondoggle to cavort with her fat friends. Does anyone know when she began calling herself Shan'ann and why? There are photos of Shanann in tight dresses and boobs hanging out, standing next to souped-up cars. This is a good thread! Selling prescription meds? She was game to go camping and didnt take five hours to do her makeup and hair and nails. No, but the evidence to support it is in the discovery, R261. But yeah. The man had the foresight of a gnat and zero sympathy, let alone empathy, for others. Everybody was buying houses they couldn't afford and hoping to flip them for an easy profit. I just dont get that at all. Once she was done, she cut herself off from him. Chris watts should never get out of prison. Police say that Christopher Watts, 33, was arrested in connection with the murder of his wife, Shanann Watts, 34, and two daughters, Celeste and Bella, ages 3 and 4, according to police . Oh how Shanann was so excited to be able to have another child because of her battle with Lupus. Her husband should have left her & divorced her, or never married her in the first place. R150 But she was. Of course, I could make up a few believable stories about someone like this, too. Its the underlying current of this entire tragedy. Its crazy & I just dont understand it. Oh to be a remotely attractive straight white man. Nichol Kessinger and Chris Watts started speaking at work in June 2018, and by July 2018, the pair had started a romantic relationship. Chris Watts, 33, allegedly admitted to killing his wife, 34-year-old Shanann, and his daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. And they were his children too, not just shannons. I can't imagine after bankruptcy etc. First of all, its doubtful a 100k surgery, or whatever, resulted in a 25k debt. He has changed. She then went to work in Charlotte, NC for a middle eastern guy that owned a tire and wheel business called Dirty South. Stealing the kids identities? Maybe Shanann was exercising a little self-discipline and not buying dining room furniture till they could afford it?". R181, basically what we already knew. LEONARD said that people liked SHANANN. Why cant people see this? Shanann Watts Brother Always Worried About Her and the Girls But Couldnt Protect Them, Days Before Murder, Chris Watts' Wife Shanann Was Worried: 'What If He Really Doesn't Love Me Anymore? He was booked on three counts each of first-degree murder and tampering with physical evidence on Thursday. I dont have anything bad to say about her non-scam job at a call center in a childrens hospital. I would wager that no gay here appreciates that type of reasoning when it goes against your own practices ( as on forums where it's said, they make that choice, nothing excuses it). Dirty South has some shitty Yelp reviews. That router article is amazing work Nick! I also think those same things motivate him to not be completely truthful about his true motives, etc. Shanann Watts Husband / Shanann Watts Children. According to Shananns mother, the surgery on her neck cost them $100. If you can't find the email you can resend it here. But then it was built up with more McMansions pretty quickly, though. He assumed that SHANANN kept her policy and would have changed the beneficiary. I thought this thread was entitled 'Let's talk about Shannan Watts' as an excuse to get back to talking about Chris? "She had dreams to be fulfilled" and "wanted to be an exceptional wife and mother," the pastor said of Watts, 34. Watts likely justified to himself (wrongly, of course) their murders based on this. Well, she shouldnt have . She was the store manager. He was so clinical in throwing away his wife (understandable) but the kids? @Strawheart, how do you know she didnt kill the little girls? Does that mean my husband should kill me, too?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! However, anyone who devotes MONTHS to harping on how annoying a dead woman was when she was alive, has all the screws loose. She had sold her mansion in NC after they hightailed it outta there, in a hurry. Shanann was still very good friends with her ex husbands mother too. Why would you bury your dead wife only a foot and a half underground? That really upsets me. Services are entrusted to Boles Funeral Home of Southern Pines. Rewatching the confession viedo. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Maybe some day well get to the truth about the Dirty South business. They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts He admitted to that. He was an empty canvas, grey rock, cipher. Celeste was born July 17, 2015 in Colorado. How does he go from doing their hair every morning and making sure they had baths & snacks everyday (and reading them bedtime stories, etc.) I think he was planning to make it look like an accident, that Shanann Wayts came out looking for him, to confront him about his affair maybe. If she was (if she was making $80K a year) she would have to end up paying him child support. Shannon too did a lot for the family. He was obviously still fucking his wife yet he was still a crazy horn dog. Shan'ann's former boss and lover, Hisham. She was working to provide for family while her husband plotted murder. Because intferile people have three pregnancies in a five-year span. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. She did not "purchase" any house. R109: if Shannnanon filed for divorce claiming adultry, pregnant with 2 children under 5, shell get what she wants. To hide her, not to inter her. R144, Sure she fled. She was a compelling personality. "Virtually impossible to engage (her) in conversation." The FBI agents are being complimented as ingenius interrogators, but their smarminess is also cringeworthy. Two days later, he was arrested in connection with their deaths. The alienation, the excuses shes having a bad day, all of it. LEONARD does not believe that the divorce decree addressed the life insurance policies. R181 what was the friends account of her? R218: Consider yourself lucky. Shanann was married once before she married Chris to a man named Leonard King, an attorney in North Carolina. They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. He must have hated them, because he spared them no suffering and didnt every try to shield them from their mothers murder in any way. In a picture posted on August 11, she is seen at the Yard House in Scottsdale with coworkers from Le-vel, which markets weight-loss patches and supplements under the brand-name Thrive. Interview concluded at 1448 hour. But after ringing their doorbell and getting no answer, then seeing Shanann's white Lexus in the garage, Nickole called him. Probably. Im sure NK wasnt blaming everything on some imaginary disease (yes, I know lupus is REAL, but Shanann didnt have it). Excellent observation, R228. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. Replying to myself - FattieWattie should be pronounced Fatty Watty as in Wat that rhymes with Fat..Ive fucked up on the first post already :/. 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